Friday, October 05, 2012

My Review of "MIDEAST BEAST," by Joel Richardson and why you should buy it.


Here is a review I did on Joel Richardson's new book "MIDEAST BEAST." I had done this a while back on my Xanga blog and finally got a chance to post it here on Blogger. I hope you enjoy it. I highly reccomend this book. Buy it and read it.

               This post is for Christians only, to discuss Joel's new book that proves, in my opinion, the Antichrist will rise through Islam in the Middle East. Where do you think the Antichrist will rise and what is your scriptural support for your beliefs? Revelation 20:4 says Tribulation Saints (Christians and Jews) will be beheaded by the Antichrist during the tribulation period. Do you still believe the Antichrist will be head of the European Union or United Nations driving a flashy limousine? Or maybe you believe the 51YYO1Yq9ML._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_[1] (166x256Antichrist will head another nation also like the United States or Russia. We want to hear from you too. What is your detailed scriptural support for what you believe? Maybe you believe all of Revelation finished during the Apostle John's life. Please give scriptural support for your beliefs.Lets all have a discussion of these things that are so important. 2/3rds of the bible is prophecy.  Do you feel the church Pastors read enough of the biblical prophecies in church?  Maybe you feel it is wrong for a Pastor to even teach prophecy to the congregation. If this is what you believe we want to hear from you also, give us you scriptural support. If you think it is wrong to teach prophecy why do you think most of the bible is about prophecy? what is the most common way prophecy is fulfilled, symbolically or literally? Please give your scriptural support. Lets all have fun and discuss prophecy today and Joel's teaching in the coming Islamic Antichrist.
     This is Joel's 2nd TRUMPET WARNING to the church, thus his 2nd book on this same subject that Antichrist nations will rise through Islam, first being  New York Times bestseller The Islamic Antichrist, published in 2008. Brother Joel's concise clear exegetical analysis of scriptural prophecy pertaining to the Antichrist BREATHS FRESH AIR into eschatological circles. This book, a huge conundrum to all other theologians that conclude without evidence (eisegesis) the Antichrist rises in Europe or the United Nations, easily dispels according to Joel their arrogant Western thought. Surely this book, with its extensive scriptural evidence, cuts through all the NONSENSE & EISEGESIS commonly used with chalkboards and calculators to SO-CALL-PROVE the Antichrist will rise through the EU or UN with a new version of Christianity or the Pope. Joel PROVES sculpturally it isn't going to happen THAT WAY. I could never picture Christian kings of Christian countries beheading Christians and Jews during tribulation in fulfillment of Revelation 9:14-15, 16:12-14, 20:4, seems to clearly indicate; four powerful demon angels were bound at the River Euphrates until Gabriel's time of the end prediction to Daniel in Daniel 12:9; three unclean spirits released LIKE FROGS also released at Euphrates River; the kings of the East and 200 million are JUST EAST of the Euphrates River. All this added to Brother Joel's extensive exegetical analysis with DETAILED QUOTES of all the OLD OUTDATED EU & UN promoters with their calculators and chalkboards proves Joel is the leader of a new movement in eschatological schools teaching proper exegesis of biblical prophecy.
        New York Times best selling author Joel Richardson, once Islamic but now a Christian and Minister to Muslims, JoelRichardsononce again will surely set the tone for all future biblical prophesy, on how prophecy should be interpreted, on the Antichrist, commonly called the Beast in the bible, the 666 himself. Here is a book review I have done of Joel Richardson's latest best selling book called MIDEAST BEAST: The Scriptural Case for an Islamic Antichrist. This gem of a book can easily be found and bought on Amazon.com published by WND books out of Washington D.C., copyrighted, just published and released. Just click the above book link to buy, I guarantee you WILL NOT regret it. This is not the typical prophecy book that is long on tooth theory and short on scriptural support. Also, Joel quotes all the current theologians as to what exactly they believe about the Antichrist and why. This book is good for theologians also since it simplifies with summary what all the current theologians believe and where those beliefs originate. For that reason alone this book is a book all should own and have on their book shelf, if even as a reference book.
       I want to say if you want to be on the forefront of Antichrist prophecy this is the book to have, with all the other theology books. There is a great deal of summarizing going of all the theologian's views in this book. This is not shallow theology seen quite often in many books on prophecy. This is deep thinking. The type of  theology book that drains your brain when reading, but in a good way. This book teaches proper prophetic interpretation on the Antichrist. Brother Joel fulfills his promise in the title. This book truly is The Scriptural Case for an Islamic Antichrist.
       There is only one thing I've seen scripturally I disagree with in this book. This is minuet when considering his title though.  I feel there will be two Gog Magog wars, one at the beginning of tribulation and one at the end of the 1,000 year millennium. Joel says Gog and Antichrist are the same. This is an interesting view indeed and Joel does commit three whole chapters on Gog and Magog and why Gog and Antichrist are the same. These three chapters came across a little bit murky as sometimes prophecy does. But considering the size of the book and the details in it I do not feel this really detracts from the quality of the book. I do plan to go back and reread these chapters to consider what Joel says more deeply. I still feel Joel proved his case scripturally, that the Antichrist will truly rise through Islam in the Middle East.
       As also a teacher on scripturally sound prophecy I highly recommend this book as THEE ONE BOOK of prophecy to own, to get, as authoritative being sound scripturally on the deciphering of biblical prophecy as to the who, the what, where why and how of the Antichrist,  MIDEAST BEAST, will RISE in the very near future through Islam in the Middle East. Brother Joel backs up ALL of his scriptural interpretations using not only sound hermeneutic principals, as well as quoting most of the post modern theologians responsible for the European Union and United Nations theories that say the Antichrist will rise through a revived Western Empire whose False prophet will be some post modern religious movement or Catholicism. Here is only some of his 8 huge pages of annotated bibliography for those into research.
       Brother Joel pulls no punches as he exposes of, throughout the book, of which are mostly weaknesses of argument, with 8 pages fully annotated bibliography of interpretations on prophecy espoused and promoted by such theology greats as follows but not limited to: David Reagan, John Woolvard, Chuck 51YYO1Yq9ML._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_[1] (166x256Smith, Dwight Pentecost, Gleason Archer Jr., Pollard, Tim Lahaye & Ed Hinson, H.C. Leupold,Jamieson Fausse & Brown, Jerome, David Neff of Christianity Today, James Smith, William Smith, Ralph Smith, Larry Harper, Matthew Henry, Lang, David Guzik, Robert Thomas, C.F. Kiel, Edward Young, Arno Clemens Gaebelein, Nathan Jones, Max Blumenthal, John C. Whitcomb, Grant Osborne, G.K. Beale & Sean McDonough and many many more too numerous to list.
       He also uses other extensive historical evidence as Josephus, Ancient Christian Commentary , not forgetting Taludic, Midrashic & Rabbinic sources, Nigel Pollard, Lactantius, Hippolytus, Herodotus,
       The structure and eloquent prose of the book is such that one literally cannot put it down once started from the summary preface statement through the detailed 259 pages to the full page of recommended sources for researchers, 8 full pages of detailed bibliography notes and 5 full pages of index for later return to certain areas of the book.
       Brother Joel hits a home run with this book and backs up all his claims with scriptural evidence as to why the Antichrist will not be driving some flashy limousine coming from Western Europe somewhere. He not only proves this scripturally but also linguistically and culturally by a detailed comparison and contrast between Western and Eastern thought as to how scripture was written in the East (Middle east) and not the West. This book is a ten on prophecy teaching.  Buy this book and see your future.
       So, for those that are looking for some cutting edge teaching on the Antichrist, this is the book. For those having trouble rationalizing an Antichrist that rises from a Western European country that beheads Christians and Jews in fulfillment of Revelation 20:4, you gotta read this book. For others that have seen the Islamic Antichrist theories online in places this book has your name on it, buy it. For the rest of you that have trouble imagining an Antichrist that rules the world from a tiny Islamic country, Joel gives answers for your view also. This book is cutting edge teaching on your future, the near future, the coming future of the MIDEAST BEAST. Get this book and be prepared as God warns us in scripture. Buy this book and see your future. I really liked this book and felt it is the best teaching on the market for the coming Islamic Beast, the MIDEAST BEAST, the Antichrist. On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the best, I give this book a solid 10.  See the many questions in the first paragraph and lets discuss Joel's book, having fellowship breaking bread together, to discuss prophecy and Joel's book.

Here are some comments on my Xanga blog to this review that I pasted here for those interested:
The bible said that the tribulation period and the end of the world was to happen during the lifetimes of the apostles and that "the" antichrist was already there:

(After describing the end of the world and the end times) "Verily I say unto you, not one generation shall pass before all these things be fulfilled." (Matthew 24:34)

"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists" (1 John 2:18)

The world was supposed to end 2,000 years ago.
Posted 7/19/2012 5:15 PM by agnophilo-


Brother Mark, thank you for visiting. I hope and pray you will find the Real Truth revealing the GOOD SHEPHERD in all your endeavers,

Not true. Read the page before to get the context. Here is Matthew 24:1-14, let's read it.

The Destruction of the Temple and Signs of the End Times-Don't mix these two things these passages are about, two separate prophecies fulfilled at two separate times.
Matthew 24:1-14

2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” Notice the disciples are asking two things in ones sentence of Christ-- A) When will be the destruction of the 2nd temple. B) What will be the signs of your 2nd Coming? To the disciples they were of both the same time for they though the Temple would only be destroyed at the end of the age. To them there was no life once the Temple was destroyed. They assumed that would be the end of age. As a side note to this this is massive evidence for the gospels and most of the New testament being written before 66 AD. How do we know this? We know it because this very thing was thought of by all the Jewish disciples as SO INCONCEIVABLE that they associated it with JUDGMENT DAY and the end of all things. And of course we know Christ prophesied that not even one stone would be upon another, Matthew 24:2. So the truth is there Mark. You only need to open your heart and let God in. Now lets read what Christ said.
4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains. 9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. Notice that what Christ was talking of here, prosecution and death of Christians, went on at least until late third century AD. Lets read more...
10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Here Christ is saying the gospel of Jesus Christ must be preached throughout the earth and THEN and ONLY THEN the time for the 2nd RETURN will come. When we look at Luke 21:5-7 we see that Luke is recording the same discussion from a different person's perspective. This will shed more light on the same conversation. See Luke 21:24--Here it is lets read:They will fall by sword and be taken as prisoners to all the nations. (Christ is talking about the Jewish Diaspora again; and this is all to occur BEFORE the 2nd Coming) Now lets read on...Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the time of the Gentiles are fulfilled. Once again just as in REAL ESTATE every thing is about LOCATION LOCATION--In interpreting scripture, and especially prophecy everything is CONTEXT CONTEXT. Here Christ is talking about his 2nd Coming and when and how the world wide Christians will know WHEN he will return the 2nd TIME, Christ said after Israel returns and becomes a nation again, ruling Jerusalem again, when Jerusalem is being trampled on by Jews instead of Gentiles, when those things are fulfilled, Christ will soon come. For when speaking about this very same thing Christ says in Luke 21:32 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. heaven and Earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

Whenever Christ said "The Time will come" he was speaking of a distant future. Once again you seem to be purposely interpreting scripture out of the context of what Christ was talking of. God will hold you accountable for twisting his words, if you doing this on purpose. Christ was already speaking of the Last Generation and how Jerusalem would be trampled on by the Gentiles until the time of the Gentiles was fulfilled. Since you are a nonbeliever what do you care what Christians believe? Instead of bothering Christians why don't you go to an Atheist site? Why do you always have to bring the smell of death with you everywhere you go? Don't you believe in Liberty? It is very hard for anyone to take you serious when all you want to do is argue all the time.

God Bless,

Brother RobertLeeRE
Posted 7/20/2012 12:05 PM by RobertLeeRE


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Mark (Agnophilo) left a huge post (August 2nd, 2012) that had absolutely nothing to do with the original post nor did he answer any of the scriptural evidence I gave him last time. This convinces me he is NOT interested in truth, rather argument. Mark is bitter to God, thus all Christianity, and is not interested in truth. He is only interested in harassing Christian web sites and Christians on Xanga. His constant bickering and arguing over insignificant points he takes out of context frankly wears me out and I do not have the time for his NONSENSE he dishes out to everybody here on Xanga. For that reason I have chosen to block him and remove his blathering dribble he calls thinking and writing. In the name of Liberty and Freedom of Religion, I choose to block him for I do not have the time nor energy to talk with this completely INSINCERE IDIOT.

He only believes people with the right views and beliefs should have freedom of speech and Liberty. He is the best example of how ALL LIBERTY comes not from Atheists or Agnostics like him but from CHRISTIANITY. That is why you do not see Christians going to other Atheist blogs where Atheists gather to try to bother them and disrupt the discussion with constant OUT OF CONTEXT statements and derailments which is the exact definition of TROLL. He believes in none of this LIBERTY which is why he feels the constant need to find Christian blogs on Xanga, being the TROLL he is, and attack them with things he constantly takes out of context. From here on out all us Christians will call him THE OUT OF CONTEXT MAN. We will call him this not to belittle him but to expose him for who he is, a person that never has a coherent argument but takes everything out of context, EVERYTHING. So OUT OF CONTEXT MAN, you are no longer welcome here, GET LOST. BYE BYE!
Posted 8/2/2012 11:06 PM by RobertLeeRE


The only problem I have is with what I consider to be the description, from Brother Joel, of the millenial reign of Christ. It makes more sense, and is in harmony with the greatest news of all time, that the reign of Christ began at Pentecost, and continues beyond his second coming.


Why? Because Christ truly reigns when people let him be God.
Posted 9/8/2012 2:32 PM by David W. Lincoln@facebook


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@David W. Lincoln@facebook So you take Joel's view that the Antichrist will rise through Islam? I think your view would be classified as amillennial or postmillennial. This was the predominant view by the church until the late 1800's when Darby came out with his dispensational views which would be considered mainstream today. This view is mostly the older mainline church like, Catholicism, and some of the protestant churches. There was a time when they would teach that the only time Christ would come back is when the church ruled the earth for a 1000 years. This view gradually became more difficult to defend WW1, WW2 and all the little wars. people eventually started to realize the world was not on a path of getting better, of ever getting better. So what is your scriptural support for that view?

God Bless,

Brother RobertLeeRE
Posted 9/8/2012 3:12 PM by RobertLeeRE


Well, I take this approach, Brother RobertLeeRE: It is most unwise to read into scripture.

Given the hostility to objective reality, there isn't, nor will be, all that much for Jesus to work with for a millenial reign which begins with his second coming.

"A Second Look at the second coming" by T.L. Frazier does a fine job of communicating where I am coming from.
Posted 9/22/2012 12:55 PM by David W. Lincoln@facebook

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Brother David,

Thank-you for visiting again. I must apologize for I actually lost track of our conversation. I thought this was the first time you commented and took it out of the context of your other, and mine, comments. this caused me to give a rather more pointed comment rather then this more brotherly one. I am glad I seen that and removed it. There was such a gap between this and the last one I completely forgot. I guess I have been busy lately.

@David W. Lincoln@facebook     I understand your approach and where your coming from. I do not agree with them but I understand them. i am afraid I think of your position being weak according to scripture. But then again I gather you might feel the same about me. But these differences although major according to prophecy are minor according to the body of Christ worldwide. We are both brothers and if Christ walked by in our age we would both be following Christ and sitting at his feet listening to every word that proceeded out of his mouth. So in that sense we are same and these are little minuscule differences. Of course when it comes to teaching scriptural prophecy we are like night and day. Only time will tell I guess as to who is interpreting scripture properly.

God Bless,

Brother RobertLeeRE
Posted 9/22/2012 6:06

16 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not an expert when it comes to this. Didn't even know this was possible. Useful read, appreciate your posting this.

12:00 PM  
Anonymous Robert LeeRE on WordPress said...

Dear Anonymous,

This is actually where Christianity truly is moving today. Slowly they are awakening to the very real possibility that the actual enemies of Israel are the actual enemies we see in the news. For fifty years now preachers like the Pharisees of Christ's time have come to us with calculators and chalkboards teaching how the Antichrist will come through the European Union or United Nations driving some flashy limousine wearing an Armani suit with a Rolex watch and not only does this view lack in scriptural support but also historical evidence. It will be another Adolf Hitler they have been telling us 50 years now. But the evidence just isn't there. The Europeans are so ashamed of Germany and Hitler they would never allow that to happen again. Also the Christians in Europe also would never allow that again. Now Islam has been Anti-Jew from the very beginning. This is where the Antichrist will come from, False Prophet also.
Thank-you for visiting and reading, and especially commenting.

God Bless,

Brother RobertLeeRE

10:25 PM  
Anonymous JimmieK said...

"I highly recommend this book as THEE ONE BOOK of prophecy to own"

Shouldn't The Bible be the ONE BOOK of prophecy to own?
Joel is out to lunch on the AC being Islamic. Nothing in Daniel's description... describes an Islamic AC. To the contrary.
Islam will be virtually wiped out in Magog Invasion...all "parties" to the invasions...their homelands will be destroyed...God finally judges Islam as the Demonic False Religion that it is. Islam will be finished PRIOR to the arrival of the AC.
If nothing else and this is by far not my sole reason or my greatest reason, just a simple common sense reason... Deception will flourish under the AC. Matt. 24, Daniel 8:23-25, 2 Thess. 2, etc. It’s all about deception. What is deceiving about an Islamic AC? Nothing...seems to make great sense. But remember ABOVE ALL ELSE IT IS A TIME OF DECEPTION!

We won’t see the AC coming...everyone thinks it's Islam...Islam couldn’t tie their shoe in a war against the rest of the world.
Daniel said it will be an empire like no other....Does an Islamic empire sounds like Babylon? or Medes-Persia? "The AC will be loved"...Yet every nation on Earth HATES Islam. Islam has no power, no control of the wealth, no control of the media, or a giant war machine..Islam is being used to fool people into looking the wrong way...as the real AC smoothly slides onto the world scene.
Islam is exactly what everyone thinks the AC will look like...and they are wrong and believing in Richardson's tripe printed to protect those truly behind the AC, in power today, those who control all the money in the World...all the media in the World, all the Intelligence in the World, all the most powerful armies in the world. All the surveillance in the world.
None of these forces, which are needed to control the world, are in the hands of Muslims. None.
Stop looking at Islam. Islam is like the scantily clad girls on stage with the magician in Vegas. When the lights grow dim, the girls come forward and "holds all eyes on them"....MEANWHILE in the back...the real magic is going on.

10:46 AM  
Anonymous RobertLeeRE said...

Jimmie K.,

Thank-you for visiting and commenting on this forum. Although I disagree with your position and think it is weak according to scriptural support, yet I will still publish so we can all discuss.


I love your first sentence for it is the basis of this entire blog called Sola Scriptura. Let us look and consider your first sentence you said which was this:

"Shouldn't The Bible be the ONE BOOK of prophecy to own?"

This is a Christian blog. The assumption I made in that statement is that you already own a bible. Are you saying you do not own a bible yet? By the way what type of bible do you own and use? Why are you so afraid to share your exact beliefs about who you think scripture teaches the Antichrist is, and the scripture that supports that view.

I agree with your one statement (1st sentence) more than probably even you. All scripture in my opinion is Sola Scriptura, the cry of the reformation.

Sola Scriptura means we do not need commentators to tell us what God means when it comes to the interpretation of all scriptural prophecy. This was the cry of the reformers and the reformation. People like Martin Luther and the other reformers discovered that the Holy Roman Empire, thus the Pope, were teaching things, many things actually that were extra biblical. When I say extra biblical I mean introducing teachings from commentators that came from outside of scripture. The types of things they were teaching were:
•Purgatory
•Selling of special indulgences
•adding books to the bible that shouldn't be there
•were claiming the teaching from the Pope was equal to scripture (God's Words)
•Taught that the bible should only be taught in Latin, the Holy language

Joel's book, as well as I, point to God's words in the bible as the ultimate authority on what God is teaching in the bible. All of your dribble actually never quotes any kind of scripture as authority. I have tested and read his book and his exegesis, in my opinion, is sound and true. It is true... people oppose him and get upset as you do (you seem upset to me) because his teaching is not being promoted by some seminary somewhere. Well, I must remind you that some of the best teachers, most actually, came from outside the church and not from within. But it doesn't matter how much you scream or how many rocks you throw, you must base your interpretations of prophecy based upon scripture only.

3:53 PM  
Anonymous RobertLeeRE said...

Jimmie K
This is part 2 of my comment back to you:

A good example is the Apostle Paul. At a time when God could have breathed words through any of the desciples that actually walked with Christ those 3 1/2 years God chose to breath not through the Apostle the desiples chose to replace Judas, the fallen one, rather God chose to miraculously blind and heal Paul. This proves two things:
•All of God's followers have a weakness to fall into Pharisee-ism
•That sometimes teaching based upon sound esegesis principals correct this

So what is your scriptural support for your belief that the Antichrist will rise in the European Union. Is that what you believe? If that is not what you believe please give us details for what you do believe and the scripture that supports that. I am sure everyone would love to hear it.

The only scripture you quote"you claim" it is deception. The only one deceived, it . appears to me, is you for you cannot backup your claims. If you think you can why don't you share the specifics with us? You quote no scripture to support your claims of who, you didn't say, who you THINK the Antichrist will be. How about quoting some scripture to give us an idea where your coming from okay? I realize you quoted some scripture saying the world was decieved, i am not talking of that part. I mean obviously God wants us to know something about the Antichrist for there is so much scripture about him and the Antichrist nations. So gives us more than just a blanket statement the world would be decieved. How about what exactly YOU believe instead. I mean it appears you are hiding your true beliefs. No links to your website, nothing. What are you hiding? Why don't you give us some details on your beliefs. What are you ashamed of?
The Antichrist will not be driving some flashy limousine in Europe for the European Christians would never allow another Adolf Hitler to rise again. They also would never allow the beheading of Christians and Jews which woyuld be the tribulation Saints as described in Revelation 20:4. Those Europeans are so ashamed of letting Hitler rise the first time. Also the age of Kings in Europe is long gone and over. Europe would NEVER put up with another dictator which is what the Antichrist would be, another dictator. I just cannot see this happening in Europe, Christian Europe.

The only place on earth where they hate the Jews and Christians equally and call both groups "the people of the book," is Islam. This is also the only place on earth that Christians and Jews are still being beheaded today, Revelation 20:4 NIV. Lets read it: I saw thrones on which were seated those who had given authority to judge. And I saw souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God.

God Bless,

Brother RobertLeeRE

3:55 PM  
Anonymous JimmieK said...

First Brother Lee...
We are not on the same page with regards to America being Babylon either, so...
You believe it, we are all entitled to our opinions...even me.

Point #1
How can an Islamic figure stand in the Temple and declare himself to be God? Especially if there was an Islamic world empire like you and Joel believe...any individual claiming to be Allah would have HIS head chopped off for blasphemy against Allah.
Case against the Mahdi-
First the term Mahdi isnt mentioned in the Koran or the Haddith.
Book of Daniel states: The Anti-Christ will not regard the faith of his father’s-: Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. Daniel 11:37 This is interesting. Wouldn’t a Mahdi, who is “prophesied” to come restore Islam over the Earth….BE ISLAMIC? So who was his Father? The Shia along with some Sunni Scholars believe that his father was Imam Hasan al-Askari. Sunni sources: Sahih al Tirmidhi v5 p137. Sunan Abu Dawud v4 p292. Al Mustadrak, by al Hakim v4 p 278 who said it is authentic based on the criteria of 2 Shaikhs (i.e. al Bukhari and Muslim). So how can a Muslim Mahdi who is the 12th descendant of Mohammad whose sole mission is to restore Islam on Earth… not worship the God of his father when his father is Muslim? An Imam. My research shows the fact that the Mahdi is Islamic, he comes from a blood lineage from Mohammed, he comes to restore Islam on Earth…. recognizing Allah. So I see no way an ‘Islamic’ Anti-Christ… who according to our Bible, “does not regard the God of his father” can possibly work. The Mahdi of Islam as the antichrist of the Bible doesn’t fit this scripture. Fact: The Madhi is not mentioned in either the Koran or the Haddith. The term comes only from the writings of early church fathers.

I guess it might be possible that a figure of Islamic heritage rise to become the anti-christ...but once he declares himself to be god, he can no longer be Islamic...therefore NO ISLAMIC ANTICHRIST.

Why does 2 Thess 2:4 mention the AC declaring himself to be GOD instead ALLAH, or a god greater than our God...or something else. NO he claims to be the Christian God. This accotding to the scriptures.

Joel is not the first to teach the Islamic AC theory...I heard Perry Stone preach it 10 years ago, he even wrote a book called "Unleash the Beast from the East" which talks about the Rise of the Antichrist and him being Islamic.

2:56 PM  
Anonymous JimmieK said...

Point #2
Brother Lee,
The Anti-Christ is the Little Horn of Daniel. Daniel describes the Anti-Christ as the “Little Horn.” I see nothing about Islam that fits that description. It is an ancient civilization which historically as well as today boasts a large land mass, and extremely large people group. 1.6 billion. At one time Islam achieved world domination during the “Ottoman Empire.” (The Ottoman sultans and Turkish generals kept the laws of Islam.) This was worldwide- Not a good example of a “Little Horn.” A better theory of what may represent a “Little Horn”? The Vatican. The Vatican is the smallest nation on Earth yet has a large mouth, with which blasphemies are spoken against God. (The Catholic Doctrines, Dogmas, and Councils are in themselves blasphemous to God.) The Vatican is a “Little Horn” / tiny nation, yet every single leader…from every nation rushes to Rome to kiss the Pope. Yassir Arafat the president of the PLO met with the Pope 8 times. The president of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Russia’s Premier Vladimir Putin, Reagan, Bush Sr. Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama, Castro, Mussolini, and Hitler all met and struck deals (fornicated) with the Pope. The Vatican arose out of a Europe that was once made up of 10 nations or kingdoms, Rome being the smallest or Little Horn. I personally cannot find a scenario that could possibly allow Islam to fit in a Little Horn description. The Vatican on the other hand is the smallest nation on Earth and yet is the Wealthiest institution on Earth. “The Woman Rides the Beast” Dave Hunt author p. 76. The Vatican is the largest landowner on Earth. The Vatican Jesuits have the best intelligence agency on Earth. The Vatican has the best space, astrology and astrophysicists on Earth. The Vatican is responsible for murdering more people than any other nation and more Christians than any single group on Earth….dwarfing Islam in this regard. Not even close. Still it’s the smallest nation on Earth. A “Little Horn.”
I am not stating I believe the Pope to be the AC, just giving a better example of a "little horn" than Islam.

9:11 AM  
Anonymous JimmieK said...

Point #3
Brother Lee,
The Anti-Christ kingdom will be like no other- Daniel 7:19 19 “Then I wanted to know the meaning of the fourth beast, which was different from all the others and most terrifying, with its iron teeth and bronze claws—the beast that crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left.” The Anti-Christ Kingdom is different from ALL the other kingdoms. Islam is in fact very similar to Medo-Persia which is modern day Iran. King Cyrus was a conquering leader who demanded and received submission from his subordinates. Of course we all know 'Islam' literally means…Submission. During Cyrus’ conquering tours many nations simply complied…SUBMITTED rather than fight. In my understanding, a 4th or final kingdom of Islamic rule, would be very similar to past kingdoms rather than a kingdom that is “completely different” as the prophecies call for.

11:01 AM  
Anonymous JimmieK said...

Point #4
Brother Lee,
The Anti-Christ will be loved by all the world. Revelation 13: 8- "All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world." It doesn’t say they were FORCED to worship the beast (a la Nebuchadnezzar)…it simply says all WILL worship the beast. The Anti-Christ will be loved by the world, worshipped and adored. In my opinion this rules out Islam, because frankly the world hates Islam. Except those who consider themselves Muslim- remember Islam will be decimated in the Magog Invasion PRIOR to the arrival of the AC. Nations around the world hate Islam, hate the idea of a Mullah ruling over them...ask Sudan. Europeans do not like Muslims in their cities as racist as that sounds. Not China certainly not Russia with Chechnya, or Denmark, or Japan or Africa. I cannot think of a single nation or people group that would chose Islamic rule when given a choice…again, except those currently enslaved by Islam. Since it has been determined... according to Islam teachings... the Mahdi comes to restore Islamic control, and not just be a benevolent leader from Islamic origins… IN which case all would NOT worship him. Since the majority of the world hates Islam. Plus after Ezekiel 38-39 Islam will be reduced to mere ashes, while another institution of over a billion followers could be calling the shots from the Vatican in Rome. And we know that all the leaders in the world love the Pope.
George Bush Jr. stated that when he looks into the eyes of the Pope he sees Christ! Youtube it.

11:22 AM  
Anonymous JimmieK said...

Point #5
Brother Lee,

Anti-Christ has control over money and banking- Revelation 13:16 "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads..."
In order to ‘CAUSE’ this to take place clearly the Anti-Christ MUST have control over the banking system of the entire world. Today, Islam has no such control. Not even close. The IMF, and World Bank, Federal Reserve Banking System, virtually every bank in every country of the world... are controlled by a small handful of families. Sufficed to say…THEY are not even close to being Islamic. Most are in fact Jewish. Many are believed to work at the behest of the Pope and the Vatican who ultimately control the world finances. Vatican being the largest land holder and largest gold owners on Earth.

8:19 AM  
Anonymous JimmieK said...

Point #6
To Brother Lee,
The Anti-Christ will be a Master of Intrigue- Daniel 8:23-25Intrigue is defined by Webster’s as 1a: a secret scheme: machination b: the practice of engaging in secret schemes. c. A secret or underhand scheme; a plot. d. The practice of or involvement in such schemes. Arousing curiosity and interest.

I suppose you could describe the action of setting off random bombs by radical extremists as underhanded. Although new info has linked Al Qeada to being funded and armed by the CIA...so...
I see nothing on a global scale that can be considered misleading, deceiving, and in fact hatching a worldwide secret scheme. Islam often creates an image of itself that is not quite lived up to, but so does Christianity and every other religion. I do not see world intrigue, deception and the art of leading millions towards a mindset that would be conducive to a One World Government coming out of Islam. Even with 9/11. Once you question what you have been told about 9/11 instead of accepting the 9/11 Commission Report written by headed up by, and voted on by globalists/liberals, you start to see the layers of deception. You will see Islam’s main role as pawn not king.
Far from being deceptive, Islamists will usually tell you to your face what they are going to do and why. Usually it’s because westerners are in their countries and they do not like that. Another reason is they fear America selling its embracing of homosexuality, drug use and porn... to their society.
A quick example of how mass worldwide deception and fraud operates with the globalists is the Global Warming Hoax….which is supported by layers and layers of politicians, governmental institutions, media stars, and a whole variety of special interest groups, most of whom receive funding from international globalists such as George Soros, Maurice Strong, and Al Gore. ALL have a vested, financial interest at stake, (they own the only company that sales carbon credits) involving a scam which was initiated using phony information gathered by willing/paid accomplices in the scientific community. You can also see large scale deception by studying the history of CIA activity, and the history and causes of U.S. intervention in WWII and Viet Nam. You will start to see a pattern of TRUE INTRIGUE. As sneaky as the west paints the Arabs, they are no match for the deception perpetrated by those who control the banking industry and the military industrial complex..those who even today operate in the shadows ruling the world, controlling all currencies, all exchange rates, all the oil, manufacturing wars, famines, pestilences...controlling the media, Hollywood, the prevailing thought in society....all in secret until the prophetic timeline commences. Islam is used as a pawn by the shadow government, they have no power to control anything...and will be utterly destroyed by God before the AC comes on the scene.

8:36 AM  
Anonymous JimmieK said...

Point #8
To Brother Lee,
The Anti-Christ is called “The Lawless One.” Islam is far from lawless; it is actually steeped in legalism. Some say that since Islam does not adhere to the teachings of Christ… they are in fact lawless. Maybe so, but the scriptures have never specifically labeled or given that same title to any of the other past kingdoms when they also did not adhere to Christ’s teachings. In fact ALL kingdoms are lawless if defined by “not adhering to the teachings of Christ.” Yet only the AC (kingdom) is called the lawless one. I believe lawless to mean practicing sinful behavior, hating God, hating Christ and relishing in sinfulness actions. Strong’s Concordance defines lawless as follows: anomos—a-no-mos without law, transgressor, wicked, lawless, and unlawful. Strong’s doesn’t mention; ‘not adhering to the teachings of Christ’, as a definition of ‘lawless’ as written in this verse. Islam is steeped in legalism.

8:00 AM  
Anonymous JimmieK said...

Point #9
To Brother Lee
There is a conspicuous absence of Point #7...which deals with the fact of the AntiChrist exalting himself above God, and eventually sitting in the temple declaring himself to be the God of the Bible.
I pointed out in Point #7 that no Muslim Imam or Mahdi or any other Islamic individual would ever call themselves Allah...and have no desire to consider themselves to be the God of the Bible. I also pointed out that there is in fact a man alive on Earth today who rules over 1.4 billion followers, who does in fact refer to himself as God. Christ on Earth. God incarnate in the flesh today alive and well on planet Earth, and that person is the Pope. I gave 7 examples of the Pope referring to himself as Christ or God on Earth.. official Vatican documents… each with footnote reference. I also explained that the words of a Pope are irrefutable and infallible and the Pope’s words are the exact equal to scripture according to the Council of Nicaea, and that Catholic law has never changed or been rescinded to this day. That is officially what the Vatican, the College of Cardinals, the Magisterium, and the Roman Catholic Church believes. These laws also attach an anathema “official Catholic curse to hell” to anyone who does not believe or adhere to these laws and beliefs. If you have a catholic friend that doesn’t believe these things, they too are cursed to hell by their own church. Period! This is not my opinion, take it up with the Vatican officials if you do not like. For some reason Brother Lee chose not to print Point #7 although its facts are provably correct. Perhaps Brother Lee has an affinity towards the Church of Rome, or is concerned about potential backlash from Catholic viewers. Ask Chris Pinto at Noise of Thunder. Jesus drew the line in the sand not me. I am only about halfway through my Points proving Islam is not the final Kingdom nor will the AntiChrist be Islamic, and teaching otherwise actually leads people in the wrong direction, and prevents them from seeing the maturation of the AC system today. Perhaps Brother Lee will see fit to allow me to continue and I thank him for his honesty and hard work.

10:21 AM  
Anonymous JimmieK said...

Point #10
Brother Lee
According to the Mahdi/12th Imam/Islamic Antichrist theory, The Mahdi as the biblical Antichrist. This theory runs into another problem which is: Genesis 16:10-12. God's covenant with Ishmael. In this covenant God promises to bless Ishmael by multiplying exceedingly his seed, but states that these descendants:
"He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward[b] all his brothers.”
Today the various sects of Islam hate each other to the point of one blowing up the 1300 year old mosque of another, so that the Mahdi cannot return from that mosque as believed by that particular sect!
The bible says these sects will always be at odds and at war with each other...which we see today.
The Antichrist of the bible, on the other hand, will have everyone who's name is not written in the Book of Life, following him. Peacefully.
Islam will be annihilated during the Magog Invasion..leaving the remnants unable to control any power such as would be necessary for world domination.

7:18 AM  
Anonymous JimmieK said...

Point #11
Brother Lee,
If you follow the dictates of the Antichrist and separate out the current political fervor regarding Islam, one can see the impossibility of the Islamic Antichrist theory.
If you never dig deeper than the surface mainstream news level, you will miss the true picture.
According to Christ, Paul, Daniel and John the premier component signifying the time of the End, or the formation of the Antichrist government...will be DECEPTION.
As I pointed out in #6, there is no greater sign of the end times than DECEPTION. I will quickly give several of the many verses which states this:
Daniel 8:23-25 "He will be a master of intrigue, and cause DECEPTION to flourish."
Matthew 24:3-"what will be the sign of your coming?" 24:4- "Take heed that no man DECIEVES you."
24:11- "Many false prophets shall arise an DECIEVE many."
24:24- ...they shall DECIEVE even the elect, if that were possible."
Timothy 3:13 "Evil men and imposters will go from bad to worse, DECIEVING and being DECIEVED."
Revelation 12:9 “The devil who has DECEIVED the whole world.”
2 Thess. 2:11 "Therefore God will send them a strong DELUSION."
2 Thess. 2:3 “Don't let anyone DECIEVE you.."
2 Thess. 2-7 “For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work.”

Even if we take a basic approach and realize that an Islamic Antichrist would not be deceptive at all. Islam hates God’s chosen people and Islam hates Christians,
and Islam threatens to make war against them daily. Yes it is a hateful stance, but it is not deceptive. Islam is not deceptive.
The Antichrist and his government, his society, his religion will fool almost everyone. You will not see it coming! That is the definition of deceptive.
It is hard for many to understand the times we are in because no one considers what Jesus warned us. That this will be a time of great deception as no other
In history! But instead of doubting first and doing diligent study…most people believe everything they hear. Whether it’s from the pulpit or from the TV news.
Christians should know better, but they do not. They neither check the scriptures or test the spirits. They believe what they hear. The church in America is set up to accept the antichrist.
The church is filled with deceivers being deceived, liars, tares, certain men who have crept in unawares, because the church is asleep, and refuses to wake up and look beyond all mainstream media news,
And accept the possibility that in a deception filled world, maybe… all is not as it seems , in every area of our lives.

7:42 AM  
Anonymous JimmieK said...

Point #12
Bother Lee,
Joel Richardson a.k.a. Richard Able
makes a bold leap in assuming that Gog of the Magog Invasion Ezekiel 37-38 is the same as the AntiChrist. All those who agree with Richardson must also agree with this premise. In order to continue this line of thinking one must suspend reality and biblical accuracy to take a hard left down a dark and winding road called Heresy.
For the prophet Ezekiel describes Gog and more importantly he describes the fate of Gog in Ezekiel 38:3-5 which follows:
""Then I will knock the bow out of your left hand, and cause the arrows to fall out of your right hand. You shall fall upon the mountains of Israel, you and all your troops and the peoples who are with you; I will give you to birds of prey of every sort and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. You shall fall on the open field; for I have spoken,” says the Lord God."
"Then I will knock the bow out of your left hand, and cause the arrows to fall out of your right hand. You shall fall upon the mountains of Israel, you and all your troops and the peoples who are with you; I will give you to birds of prey of every sort and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. You shall fall on the open field; for I have spoken,” says the Lord God."Then I will knock the bow out of your left hand, and cause the arrows to fall out of your right. YOU SHALL FALL UPON THE MOUNTAINS OF ISRAEL, YOU AND ALL YOUR TROOPS AND THE PEOPLES WHO ARE WITH YOU; I WILL GIVE YOU TO THE BIRDS OF PREY OF EVERY SORT AND TO THE BEASTS OF THE FIELDS TO BE DEVOURED. YOU SHALL FALL ONTHE OPEN FIELD; FOR I HAVE SPOKEN, SAYS THE LORD GOD."
He is killed upon his arrival in Israel.

7:57 AM  

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