Friday, October 05, 2012

The Time of Jacob's Trouble & The Seventy Year Prophecy


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                                           Author's Preface
       Here's a sermon from the archives I posted in October 2006. It has been improved with some additional scriptural quotes, revealed through revelation from God, but the basic message is the same. This prophecy is based upon the bible using two different terms synonymously, "The Time of Jacob's Trouble," and the "Tribulation."  Since God used these two statements synonymously, it is not a stretch to extrapolate a completely different then the traditional prophetic meaning to what is thought of as the period of "Tribulation," or the, "Time of Jacob's Trouble," when we carefully read Genesis 28:1-33:17.  
       Although I will quote scripture here, please get your bibles and concordances out, lets all follow along together.  This is only commentary on an interpretation I give you, but don't take my word and add to God's words. God gave you a bible for a reason. Do the hard work required to determine truth revealing new revelation resulting in an increased vision during these times of great trials.   I am not a Reverend, a Rabbi or Teacher, so always remember Christ taught we are all brothers and sisters, never to place ourselves above each other in the church body. That goes especially for you Preachers, Elders and Deacons. Don't forget your calling to servanthood. For if Christ is the head can anyone add words to absolute truth by heaping heavy burdens upon men's shoulders to line many pockets already full?
       My view is just a man's view in a long line of commentaries on the bible, many times found later to be wrong. My intention is not to replace the bible or revelation from Holy Spirit that can only come from the hard work of seeking truth by the diligent reading of this love letter to mankind from Lord Almighty. My only intention is to share what the Lord Almighty revealed to me after much prayer, much seeking and reading of His holy words.
       So please make sure you have your bibles with you, following along, always double checking, always praying about the many scriptural quotes I give you, carefully meditating with prayer and the fear of God. I say this in all humbleness and fear of the fulfillment of Revelation 22:18-19.
       Lets break bread, by reading this scripture that most should heed, but few do, instead  placing [their] words above God's words by exalting themselves instead above the word of God. Let us not follow the words of men nor add words to God's words. May we all repent by purifying our hearts, putting salve on our wounds to grow in the wisdom that comes from the fear of God.
                                 Revelation 22:18-19 NIV
       18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book:  If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy. God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. 
       Get ready, for the end is coming soon, even upon us [at] this very hour. Be of good cheer all you tribulation saints and those that are chosen for the first Wedding Banquet , always watching, always praying, to be counted worthy in a time of trouble, even shining brightly as wisdom dictates during this dark hour, setting yourselves like upon a high pedestal for all to see the way out, to see where the narrow winding path turns to avoid stumbling in the 3rd watch of the night. Shine bright as the brightest stars for all to see. May your light be seen by many during these last minutes of the hour, always filled in spirit and joy with Holy Spirit, always ready with answers, so when, nonbelievers cross your path, [they] will experience God's truth with overflowing joy from your heart, allowing even you, begging you, to quickly snatch them up, rescuing them, for this is God's love through his only begotten son, protecting them from the fiery river flowing to the lake of fire, that they didn't even know they were in.
       Be wise and of good cheer always you Tribulation Saints, for your destiny was meant by God as a gift to his chosen ones. Help them as they helped you from the branch, so those from the branch waking up the roots first so there is more increase during this time of spotted and striped sheep harvest.
       How long do you think the tribulation will be?  What is your scriptural evidence? Do you follow men's words or God's words? Do you follow what your Pastor says or what God's words clearly state?  Scriptural evidence shows that tribulation will be 20 years, not a seven year period as we are told. This January we're right now entering the twelth year, or the beginning of the 6th year of the Rachel portion,  rapture estimated around 2010 or 2011, according to the 70 year prophecy: Seventy Years Prophecy Part 1  Seventy Years Prophecy Part 2  Seventy Years Prophecy Part 3  Seventy Years Prophecy Part 4   Sorry these last four sermons are not combined but please study all four sermons for this prophecy takes a lot of effort before Holy Spirit reveals.  Not many are meant to know when the end is but hey, who knows, maybe your one of them eh?
Here is scriptural evidence indicating a Twenty Year Tribulation prophecy. This sermon is a work in progress. 
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 The Time Of Jacob's Trouble
               a Twenty Year Period Not Seven Years

                              General Preface
First read Genesis 27:41-45, 29:1-31:41 about Jacob's 20 year period of trouble. The Time of Jacob's Trouble, Jeremiah 30:3, 30:7, Zephaniah 1:15, Job 38:22-23, Psalms 90:10, is thought of by many as a time of tribulation  and great distress in the world, especialy for the Christians and Jews.  Lets all break bread and read scripture as a beginning of our study on , The Time of Jacob's Trouble.
                                                                            Genesis 31:41 NIV
It was like this for the twenty years I was in your household.  I worked for you fourteen years for your two daughters and six years for your flocks, and you changed my wages ten times.
       Now notice Jacob's time of trouble was a 20 year period broken up into three distinct seperate periods with three tribulation periods but one period, lst 6 year period, much worse then the others. For it was during this last period once again Jacob was fleeing in the middle of the night because of being concerned for the safety of those who loved him, Rachel, Leah, the children, servants and concubines. This was because of the threats from Laban's jealous sons, even Laban himself. Also it appears Laban was not a man of honor, a liar really, when analizing the part where he changed Jacob's wages 10 times. Notice that Jacob actually redeemed Rachel, Leah, servants and concubines since they were sold as slaves to Jacob like somethinf that was owned. So they wer slaves and even Rachel said that to her father when he caught up to them after they fled in the middle of the night after 20 years in Genesis 31:14-16. 
                                                Jeremiah 30:3 NIV 
       "The days are coming," declares the Lord, "when I will bring my people Israel and Judah back from captivity and restore them to the land I gave their forefathers to possess," says the Lord.
                                                Jeremiah 30:7 NIV
       How awful that day will be!  None will be like it.  It will be a time of trouble for Jacob, but he will be saved out of it.
The day is the, "Day of the Lord."  This is tribulation, this is also the time of Jacob's trouble, for this period is the same. 
                                                                  Zephaniah 1:15
       That day will be a day of wrath, a day of distress and anguish, a day of trouble and ruin, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and blackness,
The day of wrath and day of trouble are also the time of Jacob's trouble, known as tribulation.  This time will be dark, gloomy with a lot of dark black clouds filled with snow and hail. 
                                       Job 38:22-23 NIV
     22 "Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or seen the storehouses of the hail, 23 which I reserve for times of trouble, for days of war and battle?" 
God has storehouses of snow and huge hailstones of about one hundred pounds each reserved specifically for these times, in a plague of hail that falls on all men causing them to curse God, Revelation 16:21. There will be no global warming for the earth from here on willl be colder thn normal.
Psalms 90:10
The length of their days is seventy years---or eighty if we have the strength;
                                                  Revelation 16:21 NIV 
      21 From the sky huge hailstones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon man.  And they cursed god on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.
This is how it will be during that last part of Jacob's trouble, very very cold.  Global warming will not be anywhere to be seen, a lot of snow, a lot of hail, even a lot of 100 pound chunks of ice falling from the heavens.  These could be pure ice from the Lord's judgment upon mankind or bits and pieces of the massive 170,000 pieces of floating debri in space from the many satellites and garbage that have been from the many space agencies all over the world.  When these fall to earth ice covers them.
       This is the time right after God brings Judah and Israel back from the nations to be restored as one nation called Israel again,  Jeremiah 30:3All of Jeremiah chapter 30 is about this horrible time at the end of age called, "The Time of Jacob's Trouble", this also being the time we live in today.  God calls the period we think of as "Tribulation", the "Time of Jacob's Trouble."  God uses these statements synonymously. Most think of this as a time in which we may escape being taken by the rapture, Matthew 24:39-41, and then a seven year judgment of mankind, this seven year period called tribulation by most.  But scriptural prophecy does not support this seven year period.  For the time of Jacob's trouble was a twenty year period, not a seven year period.  Since these two periods are the same period then the key to interpreting this important prophecy is to actually study the life of Jacob [to know] how long the Time of Jacob's trouble actually was.  I know I know, I can just hear you all sitting there, shaking your heads with your arms folded on your chest saying, "But Pastor, everyone knows that tribulation is a seven year period."   T03506 Babel Tower by www.PDImages.com

       "Yes and no," I am telling you.  "God reveals the end from the beginning," Isaiah 46:10. 
                     Isaiah 46:10 NIV
       I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times to what is still to come.  I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.
       He speaks through those he chooses, prophets of old and today witnesses, in unexpected ways, unexpected typecasts, unexpected repeats, unexpected shadows, and, in many many instances others do not even consider prophecy.  Only in rare circumstances does God speak through the ones church leaders, man's selected qualified men, spiritually educated that men think are qualified enough.  God always speaks through those things & people unexpected by men, like Abraham was unexpected by Sarah and his nephew Lot, Isaac's blessing of Jacob unexpected by Esau, Jacob's visit unexpected by Laban and sons, like Joseph and his coat of colors were unexpected by the eleven others and Egypt, like the burning bush & God's presence unexpected by Moses, like Moses & God's judgment were unexpected by Pharaoh and the Egyptian he killed, like Aaron and a stuttering redeemer named Moses were unexpected by the Israelites, like the plagues and Judgements were unexpected by the Egyptians, like the parting and closing of the Red Sea were unexpected by the Israelites & Egyptian army, like Joshua and the anger struck rock were unexpected by Moses, like Joshua and the parted Jordan river were unexpected by Israel, like like Joshua and Israel were unexpected by Jericho and the Canaanites, harp playing David unexpected by Goliath and King Saul, David 's selection unexpected by David's father, brothers and Prophet Samuel, David's courage unexpected by Goliath and the Philistines, David's underwear dance before the Ark of the Covenant unexpected by the Jerusalem nobel class, like the Prophet Nathan and Bathsheba unexpected by king David, like Solomon's kingship unexpected by David's other sons, like Solomon's arrogance and wisdom unexpected by Israel, like Elijah and Elisha unexpected by Israel & Jezebel, like Jonah and storm unexpected by the ship merchants- whale and Ninevah, like Prophet Joel unexpected by Israel and Judah, Prophet Amos unexpected because he was only a shepherd and fig tree caretaker, like Prophet Hosea was unexpected because he had an adulterous wife and children that didn't believe, like Assyria was unexpected by Samaria, like Isaiah was unexpected by Judah, Jerusalem and King Manasseh, like King Josiah's death was unexpected by Judah and Jeremiah, like Jeremiah was unexpected by Judah & Jerusalem, like Nebuchadnezzar was unexpected by Egypt, Jerusalem and Judah, like Daniel and friends were unexpected by Nebuchadnezzar and Babylon's wise men, like Ezekiel unexpected by Daniel, like Cyrus king of Persia unexpected by Babylon and her slaves, like King Cyrus's decree unexpected by Ezra and exiles, Esther unexpected by Persia and Media, John the Baptist unexpected by king Herod, Birth of Christ the Messiah expected by King Herod and all mankind, for all expected the messiah, but no one could figure out where he was until his ministry was already among them.                        
As a witness to God's words I can tell you this seven year tribulation is not exactly correct, and I can back it up with scripture.NJIpkqtvN9xonZtlJ6AbQQ2kGvgeL3nb00A0
       We know God speaks to all the God followers through typecasts and repeats and shadows.  "What does this mean?", Some may ask.   Well for one thing look at all the hints of the coming messiah, the Christ from the beginning of time. 
       God is the Alpha and Omega.  Scripture says that God reveals the end in the beginning ,Isaiah 46:10.  So to understand tribulation there must be something in the beginning of the Old Testament that will help us understand time of the end prophecy on tribulation. 
                                                                                                               She surrenders, her towers fall...,Jeremiah 50:15  
       The actual time of Jacob's trouble was a twenty year period coming right after Jacob tricked his father and brother by gluing some fur on his arm so his blind old father Isaac would bless him instead of his ungodly brother Esaunoaa1cXSdI1nHlo60
       Jacob's mother told him to quicky flee to her brother Laban`s since Esau was angry with a plan to kill him.  Upon Rebbecca's urging, Jacob fled in the middle of the night. She hurried him off.  When Jacob arrived to Bethel which used to be called Luz, the land just before where Laban dwelled he slept with his head on a rock.  It was at this place Asleep with his head on a rock Jacob had a dream of a staircase going from the earth all the way to heaven with angels going up and down and the Lord standing at the top of the staircase.  Jacob called this place the house of God with the gate to heaven. 
       Jacob labors as a shepherd for Laban 14 years for food and shelter only & the marriage of two virgins, 1st seven years for Rachel but tricked and received Leah instead, seven years again for Rachel the chosen one.  Jacob wants Laban's virgin daughter Rachel as wife and agrees to an oral contract to stay there and work for seven years to marry Rachel.  After working seven years to redeem her he marries her late at night waking up in the morning realizing he was deceived and actually married her older sister. Upset he went to Laban.  Laban insultingly stated he had to marry his older daughter first because that was the custom, but, offering Jacob he could marry Rachel after working for an additional seven years for food and shelter only. Jacob graciously agrees and another seven years pass. He finally marries his first love Rachel. After he finally marries Rachel he decides that 14 years of work with no pay needs to end and he must leave and go start his own life.  Laban not wanting to lose the shepherd that made him wealthy negotiates an additional six year shepherd oral contract in which Jacob would receive all the sheep and other farm animals that were considered dirty and unwanted, namely all the speckled, spotted, striped and brown colored's of the farm herds.  Laban thought this was a real good deal since he knew from experience not many were like this.  Then Jacob led by the Lord placed striped branches from being peeled in the watering troughs where they drank, near the trees at the river where they mated.  He would place the stronger females in heat to see these branches when they would mate.  Eventually most all of the flock was Jacob's and Laban's sons started to want to kill jacob out of jealousy.  Then they decide to escape and leave in the middle of the night, Rachel stealing her father's idols, being caught by Laban and his other children.  They threaten them, make up. 
If this story is a typecast or shadow of things to come I can conclude many future prophetic events that God's people can use as wisdom of how to live.
1.)  The time of Jacob's trouble is for twenty years and not seven.  This Time of Jacob's Trouble is used synonymously in the bible with: Day of the Lord, Day of Wrath, Day of Judgment, Second Coming and Tribulation, Day of redemption of creation, Day of Redemption of Mankind, Day of Great Harvest, Day of Thrashing Floor Harvest, Separation of Wheat from Chaff.  We can also call this the day Christ redeems his Gentile and Jewish virgin brides through the Time of Jacob's trouble.  Well this period called the Time of Jacob's Trouble is a twenty year period of trouble Jacob had redeeming his two lovely brides from slavery, the first that became last and the last that was first, Jeremiah 30:7, Zephaniah 1:15, Genesis 28:16--31:55; 31:41; 29:18; 29:26; 29:29-31.  For Jacob redeemed these two lovely brides, and handmaidens by paying a heavy price  like Christ,  to redeem them from slavery, for they themselves stated they were enslaved in their own father's household, Genesis 31:14-16noaaqSziE4mwSjs6838 This is actually very logical if you think about it.  For Jacob tricks his evil uncle Laban into getting most of the flock during the great harvest, taking only those with defects, speckled, spotted. striped and discolored sheep, Genesis 30:32-35.  If the last twenty years is the time of Jacob's Trouble or Tribulation period for God's followers and all creation, how can we break this period up into understandable terms we may use to discuss theologically?  So there are three periods of tribulation, not one.  They are as follows;
   Three Periods of Tribulation that started in 1998
1st)  The 7 year Leah tribulation period, first seven years. This represents the gentiles for they came to Christ first. 
2nd)  The 7 year Rachel tribulation period, second seven years ends with rapture. This represents Israel.  
3rd)  The 6 year spotted striped & blemished sheep great harvest period.  During this last harvest period Jesus Christ harvests so many that turn to God Satan and his demons get so upset thinking they were tricked.  This is the thrashing floor great harvest periodendtimesbegan[1].
It appears we are toward the end of
          the 7 year Rachel period but that is for another sermon. 
     This seven year period just before the rapture, before spotted , speckled and striped sheep and goats portion of tribulation, would be the most evil time the church has ever seen, ever will see,  right before the five virgins with jars of oil rapture.  More on this prophecy later, .   This seven year period would also be a tribulation period and time of great temptation for the raptured Saints before they are raptured, five virgins with jars of oil. 
       This will be the greatest harvest awakening on earth for the five virgins without jars of oil will lead them as part of the Great Tribulation Saints, Matthew 25:1-13.
                     Matthew 25:1-13 NIV
     1 "At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise.  3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them.  4 The wise, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.
       6 "At midnight the cry rang out:  'Here's the bridegroom!  Come out to meet him!'
       7 "Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8 The foolish ones said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, our lamps are going out.'
     9 " 'No,' they replied, 'there may not be enough for both of us and you.  Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.'
       10 "But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived.  The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet.  And the door was shut. 11"Later the others also came. 'Sir! Sir!' they said.  'Open the door for us!'
       12 "But he replied, 'I tell you the truth, I don't know you.' 
       13 "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour." 
     The city they were sent to buy oil is Babylon the Great, America.  Most of the Christians qualified to make the rapture and escape will be in third world nations, not the western nations that have church institutions doing nothing for their brothers and sisters in other countries being mistreated by Islam.  The ones with out the oil, God, in their lives will be all those shallow spoon fed Christians that have refused to be outraged when hearing of their brothers and sisters in Christ being martyred all over the world.  They are also the ones that will constantly accusing their brothers and sisters, other denominations.  They will all have impurities that need to be removed through the fire of tribulation.  Upon realization they just missed the rapture they will immediately go to their bibles and read the prophetic books and prophecy they rejected when they refused to wake up and put on their garments for the coming Bridegroom, Jesus Christ.   (Quote Jewish Traditions of Bride waiting bridegroom here) The virgins without jars of oil are the ones that refused to come to the party in the parable before the message was taken to the streets.  They are also the ones that lived in the rich countries refusing to help their brothers and sisters all over the world being martyred in the Islamic and Communistic countries. 
                       Assembly Image with permission of www According to the Ten Virgin Prophecy only 50% of the world's Christians will be counted worthy to escape the last six year tribulation period.  
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This 50% will mostly be the 3rd world countries where the real Christians are, where martyrs are, not the legalistic back biting back stabbing denominational building Christians of mostly protestant origins..  For they are missing something that can only be fixed in the fire of tribulation, God's furnace of purification, they are missing God's true love, they are missing God's words in their heart, they are missing the oil that keeps their hearts soft and malleable, they only have man's words in their hearts. There was also a six year period when Jacob wanted to leave but Laban begged Jacob to stay because Jacob had made Laban so wealthy, so, Jacob agreed and made a deal with Laban to work for spotted, striped and brown colored sheep, blemished sheep, as pay during this six year period.  Laban allowed this deal because he did not consider these blemished sheep and herds valuable or common.  But all are blemished and in a fallen state and God knows this. noaaUAjflVOLd4Y2516
       Jacob could keep as payment All spotted, striped and blemished sheep & goats from Laban to shepherd for Laban.  Laban & sons later complained that Jacob tricked them and took the whole flock, Genesis 31:1-3.  All three periods require great patients on the part of the Saints, that they won't have their rewards stolen by those that steal.    So there are three periods adding up to twenty years.  Think of it like this, a seven year Gentile Leah period, a seven year Jewish Rachel period and a six year great harvest period.  2.)  Rachel is a typecast of the Jewish bride, her older sister a typecast of the Gentile bride.  So the bride God picked first became last, and the one picked last became first.
3.)  Jacob is a typecast of Jesus Christ.  To understand what God will do during tribulation and how long tribulation will be we must study the Time of Jacob's Trouble, a twenty year period,  this is the key to Time of the End Prophecy.  Jacob redeemed Rachel and Leah from slavery to Laban just as Christ will redeem his two brides, the originally intended one, Israel, and the other bride, Christianity from slavery to Lucifer.  The family of Laban were a family of idol worshippers. 
            Mankind abusing fellow man; The Jews in the nazi death camps
Man's Cruelty to ManJacob selected them just like God selected the Jewish people, by default, because someone had to be first and rejected,  and later the Gentile people, Christianity, by default so no one could say they were better then the other with bragging rights. For it was in about the seventeenth year that Rachel's womb was finally opened up by the Lord and this is the time. Christ spoke of as a time of great distress like no other like a woman in labor.  Rachel died giving birth to her second kid, Benjamin, it appears in around the twentieth year of the Time of Jacob's  Trouble when they were still on their way back.  We are all undeserving, blemished with stripes and spots and dirty colored brown souls. During the last six years Jacob becomes wealthy by redeeming many sheep and goats blemished with speckles & spots, Genesis 31:1-3. 
4.)  Uncle Laban is a typecast of Satan.  He enslaved his own daughters selling them like slaves, Genesis 31:14-16.  He thought sheep with blemishes, spotted, striped and speckled coats were worthless.  He tried to trick his own people, Jacob, into working for nothing, enslaving them.  Laban thinks he is crafty by tricking Jacob for fourteen years, but, in the end Jacob leaves with great wealth. Laban keeps all the sheep considered good by the world's standards.  Laban tries to stop Jacob from leaving in the middle of the night.  This means that during both tribulations God's people will have trouble cutting their ties with the world, just like Jacob struggled leaving the world behind, leaving uncle Laban and sons behind.  But you had better flee Babylon the Great America for her judgments will be a double portion heaped upon her head.  Flee the large cities and the country if you can, but flee.  Everything will soon collapse, the markets, the skyscrapers will collapse, all the major cities will collapse.  Wake Up Wake Up!  Flee back to the countries you came from!
               Now Hold On There Partner!
There is more here for you.  If the, "Time of Jacob's Trouble," is the "Tribulation" period: Are there any other places this relates to in bible prophecy?  A resounding yes!  This relates directly to the seventy years prophecy.    And here it is.   First we must read scripture:
                                             Daniel 7:25 NIV
       He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws.  The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.
       The he is the Islamic Antichrist nations.  You should already know this if you have read my other sermons on who the antichrist nations will be and how they are not coming from europe but Islamic middle east. So since we now know that the Time of Jacob's Trouble, also called tribulation,  is a 20 year period and not a 7 year period commonly misinterpreted then this 20 year period should fit smoothly in other parts of the bible, so lets try it.
             Time = 20 years            Times = 40 years         Half a Time = 10 years
                                                           Add these up!
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                                        70 Years Total
So we could read this as this.  The Saints will be handed over to the antichrist nations for a coming future period, actually the last seventy years before Judgement Day, the Day of the Lord.   So is there anywhere else that this prophecy can be plugged in and works?  A resounding yes!   I am glad you asked.    First we must read more scripture.
                                                          Revelation 12:14 NIV
       The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpents reach. 
       So once again we now know that the Time of Jacob's Trouble, also called tribulation,  is a 20 year period and not a 7 year period commonly misinterpreted then this 20 year period should fit smoothly here also in Revelation, so lets try it again.
                          Time = 20 years            Times = 40 years         Half a Time = 10 years
                                                                                           Add these up!
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                                        70 Years Total
 

       So this scripture interprets that Israel & Judah  (woman) will be rescued & protected by a beast (eagle=America & England) that takes care of her for 70 years, takes her to a desert, prepared for her by God.  This is also called the seventy year prophecy, the seventy years that Israel will be rebuilt by the four craftsmen, Zechariah 1:20-21.  This period of time must be the same so Israel was in desolation for seventy years by the four horns sent by God, Zechariah 1:18-19.  The eagle is America and England in Daniel 7:4.  The Lion is England and the eagle is America.  Both of them work together as one.  The wings means they spread something throughout the earth.  So scripturally it fits here also.  You can find out my scriptural evidence of this and the other beasts in, "My Commentary on the Book of Daniel." 
                                               Revelation 12:4 NIV continued
                        
The serpent was trying to exterminate the Jews with Adolf Hitler, God's chosen ones to reveal his plan, Adolf Hitlerand America & England are sent by God to rescue the Jews bringing this issue up at the United Nations to allow them to return to the desert, land given them by Almighty God himself, so the United Nations issues a decree for them to rebuild Israel.  But the Islamic antichrist nations are fighting this wanting to exterminate Israel and pick up where Adolf Hitler left off. 
     If you were blessed by this sermon on prophecy consider this: Like Paul, I ask of no money from you, like the many false prophets of today wearing big gold watches and chains, the many diamonds they flash with their expensive showy clothes, showy cars and houses with many rooms, worshipping their idols of Babylonian materialism.  I ask of no money, even though, if  asking  for money I would be right not wrong, and everyone feeding at this trough would be obligated to support the trough builder's servant.  I only ask of one thing in this matter. Tell others of this web site, giving proper credit where due, providing easy click links, so that they [also]  may be blessed as you [also] were blessed, waking them up to the times in which we live, just as Christ repeatedly woke up the three imploring them to pray and watch what would soon happen..  

So what do you think, do you think we are in tribulation right now?  How long can the world survive Nuclear Proliferation?  How long do you think tribulation will be?  What is your scriptural evidence for what you believe?
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